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Run Away - 09.27.05
submitter: Vogon3
location:London
trying to get my camera ready he was going fast as he had the matt on a porters trolly
category:Find The Mattress
comments:75
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wim commented on 05.27.11
i missed all of the fun

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
Matt

DVD Dan commented on 10.09.05
So what's the password?

Rebecca commented on 10.09.05
Please, both of you, stop bickering!

FOD40UK commented on 10.09.05
That was exhausting reading!....At Grammar school, when an argument had gone on this long, with no hope of resolution, we were made to settle it using the "Queensbury Rules" (just remember rule 11: "No shoes or boots with springs allowed") p.s.My money is on V3!

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
Goodnight, V3.

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
Nighty night

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
I do not pic on you.

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
I am going to bed now . you will haave to pic on someone else for a bit

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
Around *your* way seems incredibly fruitful recently. You gonna go millennial tonight?

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
not that rare around our way

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
I like the site because we take pictures of such a mundain object and all chat about it I think the site is great the people are great and the matts are matts

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
But hedges are too plentiful. Mattresses are just rare enough to keep us searching.

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
they could be hedges for all I care its the fact we spend our time taking pictures for some grattification from others and a place in the streetmatt charts that keep us all going,

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
So why do you like the site?

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
Their (almost) infinite variety and the way it's often possible to make an interesting photograph out of them and their setting.

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
I like this site I don't give a toss about the matts

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
what do you like about them

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
I *know* you don't make them up. I've never accused you of that. I just want to see the matt properly, cos I like 'em.

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
we will be burning books soon

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
You staying up? More matts appearing...

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
SS what is thepoint of me making up pictures of matts, I get quite enough of them so you know they are there and if you can't see them go to the next matt

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
oh well that was a fold up bed, that I pointed out exactly where it was I will have to put that up on my site to show you that it was there. so a bit of censorship carried out while i was in holland shame i missed the comments on that, may be i will crop it and put it back up but I probably wont bother

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
It disappeared, leaving a comment without a pic and a bit of webspeak like earlier tonight with Salinger's pic. You obviously weren't aware it had gone. I was surprised, as I said.

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
I think this happened about three weeks ago, maybe two.

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
The pic was a blue(?) matt or base behind some bollards outside a shop on the right-hand side of a side street in the sunshine.

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
Hold on what pic

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
Oh, OK. Perhaps we can resume this lively discussion at some other time.

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
Pic

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
and what pi was that

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
I just can't agree that it's about any pics of matts. You still haven't said why you don't crop. I understand that you haven't always got time to stop and go closer, but why don't you zoom in and/or crop to make up for the fact that the matt is so small in the pic? What is the point of a pic that's about a mattress in which it's barely discernible? Don't forget that Adam actually deleted one of your pics recently after I and others said we couldn't see it. That was never my intention, and I was a bit shocked, but what does that say to you about what Adam thinks is the purpose of the site?

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
anyway I'm going to my Mattress now

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
I agree that it is a ligitimate thing to ask me where the matt is if you can't see it. And I will tell you. but I just don't think it is ligitimate to suggest that I should crop it for you.

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
the site is about any pictures of matts the decent pics get a de milo

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
You seem to be taking it pretty seriously yourself.

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
I do not "pick on" your photos. Surely it's legitimate to ask where the matt is if you can't see it. Other people have done it in the past. Otherwise the site could be filled with pics that don't really show mattresses. The site *is* about decent pics of matts - that's why there are de Milos that everyone wants to get.

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
I think you are taking this a bit to seriously SS so i am gonna just do what I do how i do it

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
this site is about STREET MATTRESSES so whats wrong with some street in it its also a bit of fun to me, but how many viewers are upset that they have to look at something else as well as a matt or even have to hunt the matt. and the reason for me taking the pic in the first place is not for us to study close up pics of matts that I am getting very bored with

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
So why are you picking on my pictures? I've just said they do not "upset me", they just annoy me a bit. Of course they're your pictures, and I'm not telling you to crop them, just asking why you don't. Don't you want to show people the mattresses? This site is about pics of matts, not general views of London (or anywhere) with blobs a few pixels wide that may or may not be mattresses. I think it's a discourtesy to the viewer to make them peer and scratch their heads trying to see the very thing that was the reason for taking the pic in the first place.

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
the only thing I cant understand is why my pictures should upset you so much why should i crop them i dont want to crop them you should not even ask me to crop them as correct me if im wrong but they are my pictures. and if Adam or Noonan make a rule that matts should only be seen in close up then I will only shoot in close up and correct me if Im wrong but it is their web site. also picking on my pictures I feel is not in the true essence of streetmattress what do you think...

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
I don't get "really wound up" about it, just mildly annoyed when you submit photos that I have to squint at to try to make out a matt. You shouldn't have to put up a website to show the detail - it should be clear in the first place. Why don't you crop the pics? You aren't bothered, because *you* know there was a matt there when you took the pic, and I don't doubt you, it's just that it's not clear. This pic is OK because there's a tiny matt shape there, but the others, in shadow, or their outlines broken up by other stuff, are not. What is the point of submitting a pic that's meant to provide evidence of a matt, but which has no *clear* evidence? You might as well take a phot in the next street and say, "There was a mattress just around the corner". Because we've only got your word for it.

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
But you seem to get realy wound up about it why.. and we now have a new category.... but you said i put up pictures with no evedence of matts in so the pics in "find the Mattress" are a very bad example as I can see the evidence in every one and even put close up pictures on the web to show those of you with strange monitor settings that the matts are their

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
That pic you've just commented on was my fourth-ever submission. I would never submit a pic with that little evidence of a matt now, but you do, even though you have had nearly a thousand submissions accepted. The ones in "Find the Mattress" are good examples.

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
show me

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
what photos

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
No, you started it by submitting some photos with no evidence of matts in. No one else does that, as far as I know.

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
anyway you started it

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
I didn't imply you were hitler

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
How can I? Prove you didn't imply it.

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
calm down

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
prove it

Smart Set commented on 10.09.05
Not directly, but you implied it, right? SS/Nazis/Hitler etc.

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
But does you saying that I did proove it

Vogon3 commented on 10.09.05
I never compared you to Hitler

Smart Set commented on 10.08.05
There's an empirical law of chatrooms which states that as an internet discussion gets longer, the probability that someone in it will compare someone else in it to Hitler approaches 1. You've just proved it.

Vogon3 commented on 10.08.05
got to go for drinks back soon

Vogon3 commented on 10.08.05
SS you have to start your own site and not let us lot put up little matts you could then police it and hold all the power your initals would work well then....

Smart Set commented on 10.08.05
Yes, it's all about rubbish.

Vogon3 commented on 10.08.05
you submit what you like but don't let what others submit bother you are you bothered

Vogon3 commented on 10.08.05
Rubbish

Smart Set commented on 10.08.05
OK, it all worked this time. Very good. I think those cropped versions are what you should submit. After all this is all about mattresses, so we need to see them if at all possible.

Vogon3 commented on 10.08.05
try this http://homepage.mac.com/mmason1/PhotoAlbum29.html

Smart Set commented on 10.08.05
I'll have another go.

Vogon3 commented on 10.08.05
weird

Vogon3 commented on 10.08.05
it works for me

Smart Set commented on 10.08.05
The webspeak is because Salinger's accidental double submission has just been deleted.

Vogon3 commented on 10.08.05
was it ?

Smart Set commented on 10.08.05
Yes. It was under construction. Pics were not clickable even though they had the "hand" cursor icon.

Vogon3 commented on 10.08.05
what is with that web speak in the comments window have we broke the site again

Vogon3 commented on 10.08.05
SS have you been to Vogons find the matt answer page

Smart Set commented on 10.08.05
I didn't say I couldn't see this one.

Vogon3 commented on 10.08.05
if you want to see it SS go to...............http://homepage.mac.com/mmason1/

Smart Set commented on 10.08.05
You reckon?

Vogon3 commented on 10.08.05
any one not able to see this matt..,.. the fact that it is so far away is what makes this photo better.

wim commented on 10.08.05
I see it